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Andrew, I wish I could speak more authoritatively on your questions, but here is my best understanding. If evil is to be done away it must first be defined and understood for what it is. jared, start talking about seerstones in sunday school and you’ll get a visit to the bishop’s office. One definition of expedient is something useful and profitable for us. Useful; profitable. Wowzers. Such an infatuated policy, such a desperate expedient, might, by the multiplication of petty offices, answer the views of men who possess not qualifications to extend their influence beyond the narrow circles of personal intrigue, but it could never promote the greatness or happiness of the people of America. This is not so much “careful what you ask for because you might get it,” but rather, “careful what you ask for because you will be judged on what you ask for.” If it’s good and right, you’ll get it; if not, you’ll be in trouble for asking. Romans 8 you made my point. 64 and 65 that begs the question:  What’s expedient? The Guide to the Scriptures makes this distinction by defining spiritual death as "separation from God and his influences." I enjoy and respect this blog and those who contribute to it. Please forgive me, but when you set yourself up like this, I just can’t resist. 2. or 2.   conducive to advantage or interest. We use it all the time. Isn’t the text saying simply that, if what you ask for is right/good/proper for you, then you’ll get it, but if you’re asking for things that aren’t right/good/proper for you, then this will factor in how you are judged? What kind of condemnation is this we’re talking about? When the Lord told Oliver he could translate — did Oliver ever ask to see the plates? Let every expedient be employed to effect an important object, nor let exertions cease till all expedients fail of producing the effect. 1. 27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God. He had not been missing long and I was not that worried. Is it no longer expedient for me? That should be stated clearly, since that discussion wouldn’t be a problem in our Gospel Doctrine class – as long as it was straightforward and accurate. The fact that this is a strong emphasis of the restored gospel is not accidental I think. Here is the most remarkable of those experiences: when I was about 14 or 15 years old my dachshund was missing. Sorry to be joining in so long after the OP (a new acronym for my vocabulary). or 2.  conducive to advantage or interest. I found this discussion by doing a Google search for “no longer expedient” because I cannot get the confirmation I am seeking regarding something I undertook years ago but have not been able to complete. “It seems that those subjects that influence spirituality receive fewer comments” I have noticed this, too. It seems to me that the lack of expediency and the condemnation are pretty clear in this story. Any reference???? Expediency. Where does it say he translated the Book of Mormon by holding it in hands or viewing it? The concept of expedience provides a lot of fluidity and flexibility, even a back door – if something didn’t work out, hey, “my ways are not your ways” or it wasn’t expedient. In other words, separation from either Heavenly Father or the Holy Ghost can be called "spiritual death." If not, I’m lost and could I get some guidance?” That way, we show we’ve tried to figure out for ourselves (which shows God we’re grateful for a previous gift he’s given us: our brains), and we are still willing to align ourselves with what the Lord wants for us, and not be demanding that everything go our way and not His way. The Lord hears and answers their prayers. [Not used.] I personally hate it when people refer to this scripture, because it is usually done in a naive way. An interesting thing to note here as well are some of the cross referenced scriptures that provide a little clarity. Full-on raging condemnation or something mild that goes away with an over-the-counter salve. jumlah translations jumlah. Other things he could have studied include: he could have looked at what had already been translated and study that; he could have studied the Bible more in depth to understand different ways that God gives revelation (for there are as many different ways as He has children in my opinion). Therefore members were misinterpreting the scripture in not understanding why he couldn’t ponder about what he was looking at. Maybe the meaning isn’t much different — but if you really want answers here, you have to take those steps to check it out, just in case. JS uses “expedient” to translate whatever word author uses in BofM, probably because it’s a favorite word of JS’s (as indicated by his use of it throughout D&C). I also noticed that in the Catgories section of the blog the heading for Holy Ghost has not been entered. Hence, tending to promote the object proposed; fit or suitable for the purpose; proper under the circumstances. It only appears 7 times in other scripture: John uses it 3 times and Paul uses it 4 times.” Just wanted to point out another thought or two on expediency. It only appears 7 times in other scripture:  John uses it 3 times and Paul uses it 4 times. Then we can safely go to the Lord in prayer and say “Look — I’ve thought about this, and this is what I think I need. Many will call this happenstance or our own thinking but we know this to be God showing forth an outpouring of love in response to our gentle pleadings. I agree with Jason on this. the Lord did for Israelites all things expedient for man to receive, 1 Ne. I don’t know much about this episode in church history. Well, it's … In short, I feel there was lots Oliver could have studied, we (at least I) don’t know what he did and didn’t try. We often get the hump with God when He doesn’t fit in with our plans,my children do it all the time with me.I will insist on continuing to act outside of the box,which is most disconcerting for them.I also think it’s important to bear in mind that God’s delays are not necessarily His denials.It can be hard to grapple with the immensity of God’s tough love,which is at the same time infinitely kind. I personally hate it when people refer to this scripture, because it is usually done in a naive way.”, I think you know that Joseph wasn’t looking at the plates either when he translated. Or should I continue trudging forward in spite of my lack of conviction that it is still right for me? Do you agree? For … First some generalities: What if the son asks for a stone or a serpent? I personally find it baffling to know if what I am asking God should be considered expedient. “By this timely aid was I enabled to reach the place of my destination in Pennsylvania; and immediately after my arrival there I commenced copying the characters off the plates. Mormon fundamentalists seek to uphold … I don’t understand why it concerns some people that Joseph Smith used the stone and hat to translate the Book of Mormon. I hope his is helpful flattail. Surely in a church that is being defined, especially through personal revelation, which is subject to personal interpretation, that kind of flexibility is valuable. Might seem like nitpicking, but I don’t think so. My initial thoughts here are to say that maybe there’s too much effort at eisegesis (reading into the text). Day 1. People use these acronyms, and I don’t know what they mean. Latter-day Saints emphatically teach that the extent of this Atonement is universal, opening the way for the redemption of all mankind-non-Christians as well as Christians, the godless as well as the god-fearing, the untaught infant as well as the fully converted and knowledgeable adult. 64 Whatsoever ye aask the Father in my name it shall be given unto you, that is bexpedient for you; 65 And if ye ask anything that is not aexpedient for you, it shall turn unto your bcondemnation. What if something is kind of expedient, but then the time has just passed? When I think back through my life about the strongest, most direct answers to prayers there are a few occasions where I was asking for something rather small and yet received a rather large answer. We have what we have and there are a lot of great thoughts in the BoM. As we can see when we are doing things with expediency we are advancing God’s great work and making it profitable for Him and us. I know he wrote down a few characters for Martin Harris to take to Professor Anton, but I hadn’t heard of writing characters down and using them in the translation. I wasn’t referring to Oliver translating in my comment. It is important to note that our will must be inline with His. Copyright © 2019 Mormon Matters. Looking at the reference of “expedient” you have given some great things to contemplate. But for the sake of argument, let’s say God does work in this way, and it is just one of his more strange methods of revelation. MH – just a guess, but OP = opinion piece (post), and SM = sacrament meeting. How to use ensign in a sentence. Sorry to continue, but one last question (and more on topic): what other examples are there when something has been commanded but then became no longer expedient? The desires of Joseph and Martin were not in harmony with the desires of the Lord, nor did they tend to further the accomplishment of the task at hand. Charity is a different kind of virtue. Mormon fundamentalism (also called fundamentalist Mormonism) is a belief in the validity of selected fundamental aspects of Mormonism as taught and practiced in the nineteenth century, particularly during the administrations of Joseph Smith, Brigham Young, and John Taylor, the first three presidents of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church). Yes, I usually figure it our long after the fact (as we do with the bible and church history), but at the time, it is most difficult to determine. Within the LDS church this term means "anything that is critical of the church". before he ever began to translate through the seerstones. ” Ensign, November 2014, 56–59, online at lds.org. Can I ask for something and get it, but if you ask for it, it will turn unto your condemnation? In Moroni 8:17 he gives another definition of charity. Many things may be lawful, which are not expedient. The definition of “expediency” is:  1. fit or suitable for the purpose; proper under the circumstances. I’m not pretending to know how or why God does what He does, but I’m convinced that whatever He does decide to do has very little to do with what I personally ask of Him. Who knows what really was originally written (if anything). It is the word of God and, like the Bible, gives us guidance and inspiration in our daily lives. Let me define how I will proceed to explain Lehi’s reasoning in 2 Nephi 2:11, using other scripture as I go, and why I choose that procedure. total noun adjective verb. But thanks for pointing out the background for the verses, it is always better to look at them in context. Was every missionary in Australia unworthy? expedient translation in English-Vietnamese dictionary. At the risk of sounding ignorant in regards to Oliver’s attempts at translation. Quick; expeditious. I propose we merge Animals in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints into this article - along the same lines as the Technology merge above - it just seems like an awful lot of treatment for such an obscure topic that could be summarized into about one or two sentences here in the main article.. MergeWithdrawing proposal--Descartes1979 19:31, 21 May 2008 (UTC); Keep The topic really doesn't … (Probably because it reveals your lack of good judgment or righteous motive, etc.). 3 Be patient, my son, for it is a wisdom in me, and it is not expedient that you should translate at this present time. I had something else in mind. Anyway, we need to get down to the purpose of prayer. When Jack receives a priesthood blessing, please inspire Fred Jones and Ben Johnson with power to know thy will. I completely agree with your value put onto the Bible Dictionary definition. “JS uses “expedient” to translate whatever word author uses in BofM, probably because it’s a favorite word of JS’s (as indicated by his use of it throughout D&C).”. In reading this discussion on prayer, I was reminded of another question I have had for a long time, and about which I would be interested in getting feedback. I will focus first on the relationships between ethical opposites affixed to God’s law (e.g., righteousness and wickedness, good and evil), on the one hand, and opposites that characterize being alive as persons (life and death, happiness and misery, and so on), on the other. I bet you can guess the result, not only did I fail more months than not, but so did every missionary in our mission. Today, Latter-day Saints drink water instead of wine. We can keep it when we pray for things that are expedient. For example, if you’re praying for someone who is sick, one could pray “please bless them to feel better”, or better yet pray “please bless Jack to find a solution to his health problem. Still, 99% of the translation was done by a seer stone, and Oliver never translated anything. Please lead Jack to find a doctor that will be prepared to give him the care he stands in need of. It appears 52 times in the BOM and 27 times in the D&C. Expedient = seeking for the things the Lord has told us are important: missionary and temple work for example. I think a scripture that relates to this is when the Lord told Oliver Cowdery to “first study things out in your mind”. It appears 52 times in the BOM and 27 times in the D&C. I think OP stands for Original Post… Or maybe I’ve just always had that wrong. This week we look at principles of righteous vs. wicked leadership, what secret combinations are, and how we can become humble. And importantly to note the reference to condemnation would be James 4 en For the purposes of this Article, actions are deemed to … Is there some reason the Lord would promise my mission president something that He couldn’t deliver on? 3 Ye ask, and receive not, because ye ask amiss, that ye may consume it upon your lusts. Well, maybe the stone… unless the intention is to bang his little sister on the head with it. MH, in some wards. If we do, can we keep it? The requesting authority and the requested authority shall communicate in relation to a request for assistance and its reply by the most expedient means, taking due account of confidentiality considerations, correspondence times, the volume of material to be communicated and the ease of access to the information by the requesting authority. Does that mean that if God doesn’t give you what you asked for (I keep picturing a vending machine), that it wasn’t expedient and now you’d better duck because condemnation is coming? Maybe he could have done it both ways, and maybe he did. Whether it is a seerstone, divinning rod, or whatever, it seems more like witchcraft than revelation to me. en amount Adakah bilangan ini mewakili jumlah individu terurap di bumi? #26 – Matthew, if you thought I meant he copied NONE of the characters, my bad. So:  “Be careful what you wish for.”  This leads to some logical questions about expediency and condemnation: Do people pray for things that they don’t. And here, I'll be honest with you in saying that I'm not completely sure that I understand what he means exactly by "all things must fail, but charity endureth forever", but perhaps it means that there are other virtues or gifts of the Spirit that will not be needed in the next life. Still, it all ultimately turned to their good, as they learned a lesson… I think. Have I missed the opportunity? en 5 And now, Teancum saw that the Lamanites were determined to maintain those cities which they had taken, and those parts of the land which they had obtained possession of; and also seeing the enormity of their number, Teancum thought it was not expedient that he should attempt to attack them in their forts. While people love to tell us to study it out in our minds as it says in D&C 9:8, they don’t read verses 10-12, (which fits in very nicely with Hawkgrrrl’s premise: 10 Now, if you had known this you could have translated; nevertheless, it is not expedient that you should translate now. the Holy Ghost manifests all things that are expedient, D&C 18:18. if ye ask anything that is not expedient for you, it shall turn to condemnation, D&C 88:65. expedient translation in English-Serbian dictionary. en fundamental, generic term used when referring to the measurement Bahan itu memang tidak pernah dibuat dalam jumlah besar sebelumnya. Where much is given, much is required. It is based primarily on the biblical text, supplemented by information from the other standard works. Does this total represent the number of anointed ones on earth? This works both ways to our blessing or to our condemnation. Gentile (from Latin gentilis 'of or belonging to the same people or nation', from gēns 'clan; tribe; people, family') is a term that usually means 'someone who is not a Jew'. There are other times I simply cannot discern His will for me, which is how I ended up finding this post to begin with. the Holy Ghost manifests all things that are expedient, D&C 18:18. if ye ask anything that is not expedient for you, it shall turn to condemnation, D&C 88:65. True followers of Christ, meaning those who have been given the opportunity to receive the gospel as taught by LDS and who have embraced it with all their hearts have a great advantage–they are favored of the Lord. 6 67 By Alex Balinski Blog LDS August 1, 2018. There is wide disagreement on the definition of the term "anti-Mormon". As for your question on a thing being expedient or advancing and then no longer or not for a time, I’m sure that many examples could be cited. (An ironic twist – that’s how it works on Fairly Oddparents anyway). It also coincides with Paul’s epistles and the gospel of John, both of which are also strongly emphasized in the LDS church (given preference over other scripture). Hence, tending to promote the object proposed; fit or suitable for the purpose; proper under the circumstances. I would like to add the Webster 1828 Dictionary definition as I feel it brings some added clarity to the oft used reference of expedient throughout the Book of Mormon and the Bible. Just curious if that’s Mormon folklore or if there is some creditable historical document asserting such. It certainly isn’t close to accepted doctrine or official teaching. The requesting authority and the requested authority shall communicate in relation to a request for assistance and its reply by the most expedient means, taking due account of confidentiality considerations, correspondence times, the volume of material to be communicated and the ease of access to the information by the requesting authority. Regarding Andrew’s reference to Oliver Cowdery, let’s put that revelation in the context. Not really important now. Hence the scripture about expediency…. However, Noah Webster, American Dictionary of the English Language (1828) defined expedient in a much more positive light: “(1) Literally, hastening; urging forward. Exceedingly that modern new lds prevail against such texts. This is the key. I’d rather these classes were more like a university theology class than institute, and I too have noticed that spiritual type posts receive few comments, unless one can put a controversial angle on it. I mean, when we are … “The Latter-day Saints believe not only in the gospel of spiritual salvation, but also in the gospel of temporal salvation. Other groups that claim Israelite heritage sometimes use the term to describe outsiders.. “Oliver was trying to translate the Golden Plates, but he was not supposed to look at the Golden Plates. I believe that all mankind has the opportunity to gain the ear of the Lord if they are living as close as possible to the light they have been given. Sometimes I think it would be cool if it were an on-line institute class with people from across the belief spectrum. Maybe the formula should really read: request – expedience [where expedience is a known factor] = chastisement. I served a mission many years ago under a mission president who claimed to have a revelation from God. Sometimes i think we get so hung up on how dreadful it is to be wrong,or to be chastened.It happens,we can live with it and it’s a functional part of the human condition.I’m human,and i will ask for the wrong things.Over time,in the course of their denial and my frustration,I might catch on to God’s process.If I don’t,then God will try again-He’s good like that.None of this makes me intrinsically bad,just human,and appropriately chastened. Second, the incident of Joseph Smith and the missing 116 pages of manuscript. It seems that those subjects that influence spirituality receive fewer comments than subject that are of lesser importance. The LDS Church began prohibiting the contracting of plural marriages within the United States in 1890 after a decree by the president of the church, Wilford Woodruff.However, the practice continued underground in the U.S. and openly in Mormon colonies in northern Mexico and southern Alberta.According to some sources, many polygamous men in the United States continued to live with … EXPE’DIENT, n. That which serves to promote or advance; any means which may be employed to accomplish an end. I was an obedient missionary and prayed fervently every month to find those two individuals that were ready. Does the father give it to him? I don’t know what the fuss is about. And he probably had french toast for breakfast the day he finished translating the Book of Jacob and ended with “adieu”. speed.] I think the more specific the better. Well, needless to say I went and opened the garage, opened the car door, and there was the dog. I’d like to start a new feature showcasing stuff I read in the scriptures and getting your opinions on what the heck you think it means. … Prayer is the act by which the will of the Father and the will of the child are brought into correspondence with each other. Hawkgrrrl, I have had this question about this exact scripture for years. Latter-day Saint; Health; Travel; Donate; Top 40 Inspirational Book of Mormon Scriptures. Expediency is a big JS word. To a Universalist, eternal damnation was an excessive and unjust punishment that far outweighed any sin a person could commit, and antithetical to a merciful God. LDS Dictionary; About; Terms and Conditions; Cart; Search for: Ether 6-11 – That Evil May Be Done Away Week 47 is scheduled for study Nov. 16-22, 2020. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints—widely known as the Mormons or the Mormon Church, ... is listed both ways. 17:30. all things are given unto men which are expedient, 2 Ne. I’ve read some church history books, and know Oliver was acquainted with a divining rod, and I believe he was supposed to use that somehow to translate. Hope you like it. So, when Oliver desired, he couldn’t translate. A variety of doctrinal, cultural, and historical subjects are treated, and a short summary is included for each book of the Bible. I like to compare this to Jesus asking Peter to walk on water, and then when Peter starts to sink, he tells us that Peter feared and did not exercise faith. 5 And, behold, it is because that you did not continue as you commenced, when you began to translate, that I have taken away this privilege from you. Shift; means devised or employed in an exigency. Jason “if you’re asking for things that aren’t right/good/proper for you, then this will factor in how you are judged”–I think you’re on to something there. And neither of you have I condemned. Bless them with the gift to heal and Jack with the gift to be healed. Excuse me? I went looking again in the basement and, when alone down there, decided to offer a quick prayer about finding him. en (14) In exceptional cases where the public interest of the Community so requires, it may also be expedient for the Commission to adopt a decision of a declaratory nature finding that the prohibition in Article 81 or Article 82 of the Treaty does not apply, with a view to clarifying the law and ensuring its consistent application throughout the Community, in particular with regard to new types of … Among the rest of the world this term means "prejudice and religious bigotry against Mormons". As a child I always had this fear that God would twist my prayers like genies do in cartoons—yeah… . Let me know if anyone disagrees with me on that. If so, will you give it to me? Our faith can lead us to do good works, obey the commandments, and repent of our sins (see James 2:18 ; 1 Nephi 3:7 ; Alma 34:17 ). But apart from eventually making a mess in the car, this was not an urgent situation (no risk of the dog overheating, since it was in the garage). He told us that God promised him that if we labored worthily the Lord would prepare at least two (and sometimes many more) people in each area who would accept the gospel. Ether 6:1–12 – The Lord will lead me … Expediency is a big JS word. From that god of new lds cyrus, in the time to him by local leader of the … doug, i’m not sure what you mean when you say I set myself up. I haven’t. It appears 52 times in the BOM and 27 times in the D&C. Lifey Definition; Blog. have you ever heard someone talk about seerstones in the context of this scripture? Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. How many people have tried to walk on water without fear of sinking? What exactly was he supposed to study out in his mind? Joseph Smith-History 1:62 “Expediency is a big JS word. Expedient definition, tending to promote some proposed or desired object; fit or suitable for the purpose; proper under the circumstances: It is expedient that you go. cs 5 A nyní, Teankum viděl, že Lamanité jsou odhodláni hájiti ona města, kterých dobyli, a ony části země, jejichž vlastnictví získali; a také vida nesmírnost jejich počtu, Teankum si pomyslel, že není žádouc í, aby se pokoušel zaútočiti na ně v jejich pevnostech. Hawkgrrrl did mention that expedient is used more in the D&C than any other scripture in her OP (original post). Literally, hastening; urging forward. Just stumbled across this, and didn’t take the time to read carefully through all comments, so maybe someone already pointed this out, but in fact neither Paul nor John used “expedient” at all in their writings. Look to the Lord’s teachings to Oliver on prayer and understanding and you may be enlightened. Specifically, the Book of … The word turns up only because a translator chose to use it, in translating whatever word Paul or John actually used. I view Matthew’s examples as “Monday Morning quarterback.”. Condemnation = seeking after power, gain,riches, and status. Answered them but who do not make right in the methods being a part of confusion is the other. I just read D&C 88 and ran across an interesting passage we’ve all heard/read before in vv. Home Blog Top 40 Inspirational Book of Mormon Scriptures. Jesus has revealed the exact words for both sacrament prayers. The term is used by English translators for the Hebrew גוי ‎ and נכרי ‎ (nokhri) in the Hebrew Bible and the Greek word ἔθνη in the New Testament.The … Priestcraft definition is - professional knowledge and skill in respect to the exercise of priestly functions. Does God ever give you the thing that wasn’t expedient, and him giving it to you is in fact how it turns to your condemnation? EXPE’DIENT, a. Joseph found the condemnation overwhelming. Ensign definition is - a flag that is flown (as by a ship) as the symbol of nationality and that may also be flown with a distinctive badge added to its design. As such, it is expedient that we should experience the gifts of the Spirit, visions, dreams, miracles, interactions with angels, and other marvelous things that will bring comfort to our souls, relief from our spiritual anxieties, and allow us to enter into God’s rest. This doesn’t specify whether you will get it or not if it’s not expedient, just that it will be for your condemnation. (Like OC translating was no longer expedient, “Sorry time’s up, thank you for playing.”). All rights reserved. To know what JS meant by “expedient” requires knowing what the word meant and how people used it at the time JS was using it. This is the cycle that keeps repeating itself in the BoM. [L. expediens; expedio, to hasten; Eng. 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